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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 13:26:50 GMT -5
I told Nate who Ozzy really was, due to Ozzy telling me on numerous occassions that he and Nate had a history, and if Nate found out who he was, he'd really want him out. And I also told Nate about Jenny and Ozzy's tighter than tight alliance. I'm glad you think that's the case when I told Nate a WHILE before that about both those things LMAO! Classic! Me and Nate had been talking all game, that's the reason why we didn't turn it on someone else was because Nate was so dead set on Ozzy going once I told him. So please stop trying to take credit for, or say you regret making that move, when in reality you had nothing to do with it, and had it not been for Nate telling you, you wouldn't have known what was going on. That's the point of an alliance--to get information. I regret not saying anything to Ozzy about him going so we could get it turned on someone else. Seriously, what are you reading? I have never met someone quite as deranged as you. I don't agree that CC winning this game would be a disgrace to anyone in this game, the host, or the ORG community as a whole, nor anything else. On the other hand I feel if Penner made all-stars from this game based on really making no moves this entire game, it would disgrace all those things and more. That would go to say that mostly anyone in this game doesn't deserve it either. The only thing you did was play both sides to a horrible extent and when you had f5 locked you blew it...case in point. period.
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 30, 2011 13:33:21 GMT -5
Well, I spearheaded Billly, Ozzy, and Your boots so blow me muthafucka
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 13:34:19 GMT -5
I may not have controlled anything, but you can only make decisions based on your alliances and what will get you farther. It could be argued that you didn't make any moves either, you say you're the one who told Nate this and that and that's the reason Ozzy went, but that's not the case and you can even ask Nate when the game's done, really you had nothing to do with Ozzy going either.
You wanted me gone but because Nate and Sekou wanted something different, you changed your decision....and yet you're still the one who thought it up and made it happen? Hardly.
I would say there were only 2 or 3 people this whole game who actually "made moves." I made a move in voting out Billy, yes that's classified as "a move." If me and Ozzy had decided to stick with Steph, Billy, Parv and CC then more than likely Nate and Jenny would have flopped over and Sekou would have left, more than likely followed by you.
Either way you would have left early. I really don't think you have any position in criticizing who did and did not make a move when all the things you say you've done someone else did first or decided for you.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 13:35:21 GMT -5
Well, I spearheaded Billly, Ozzy, and Your boots so blow me muthafucka No, you're just on an ego trip. When you joined Jury you said something like "let the hating on me begin since I constructed their votes" you didn't. Plain and simple. As for me, I'm pretty sure once I voted out Billy, Steph and Parv were both out for my neck so all that needed to be done was someone needed to mention voting me and they would have done it. There was no plan needed, just talking.
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 30, 2011 13:37:26 GMT -5
It's funny, because the vote was CC the round Billy left.
Then I went to Ozzy, Adam, and Nate and said let's blind side Billy instead, because he's been to the Secret Island too many times.
Sorry, but I have the confessional and chats to prove that was my move.
I can't wait for them to open up, just for you to see how stupid you are. Also, I can't wait for Nate to read my final vote reason, and realize your dumbass is the reason he lost my vote.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 13:43:06 GMT -5
Then I went to Ozzy, Adam, and Nate and said let's blind side Billy instead, because he's been to the Secret Island too many times. That was something that had been talked about for a while. Again, someone just needed to bring it up and people were on board. Also, I can't wait for Nate to read my final vote reason, and realize your dumbass is the reason he lost my vote. That's just you making up yet another excuse not to vote for him. You can pin it on me, sure but let's face it, throughout the whole Jury phase all you've been doing is bashing on Nate (because you're butt hurt) and you keep talking CC up and bashing Jenny AND Nate. You weren't going to vote for Nate anyways, it was quite apparent, and if me defending someone's game is the reason you choose not to vote for them, then that's just a stupid Jury move since me talking has NOTHING to do with how someone played the game, outwitted, outlasted and outplayed your ass.
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 30, 2011 13:54:10 GMT -5
I know how Nate played the game, I watched it unfold. I read about it in the jury questioning. I vote for the best player 99% of the time to win a game, regardless of personal feelings for that person, and Nate played the best game of the three. The only time I don't vote for that person, is if they are against my best friend, or someone gives me a reason not to.
Like I said I've watched and read about Nate's game. You shoving it down our throats for five rounds after you were voted out, just made it get to the point where it was annoying to hear. Nate doesn't need you to do the campaigning for him, he's a smart, articulate guy. But the fact you continue to talk up your butt buddy, who backstabbed you, and was the prime reason you were voted out, is enough for me to say no.
We've all said it the whole time in the jury thread. You had your mind made up on who you wanted to win long before the final tribal council ever started. You claim I'm butt hurt? Please, I've been playing these games for well over eight years now, I threw my personal feelings out the window when it comes to these long long ago.
On the other hand, the more times you claim I'm butt hurt, the more I start to think, you are the one who is really butt hurt, because the other seven of us, have minds of our owns, and aren't going to blindly vote for the winner you tell us too. It just goes back to what I said about you having no influence over anything in this game. You didn't have any influence in it, and your pathetic pleas for us to vote for Nate aren't going to influence us to do that.
In fact I'm sure quite a few of us switched our votes, or just basically disregarded the thought of voting for Nate, just to spite you. You think you're entitled to something, I don't know what, but it is quite amazing, considering the fact a majority of us in jury and/or final three, really can't stand you. So please, do the majority of us a favor, and shut the fuck up, cast your vote for Nate (because we all have known you're going to), and stay the fuck off the forum. We'd all be happier.
Because I started thinking about the arguments and fights in this game, in the jury thread, in the final tribal council thread. YOU were involved in almost, if not all of them....so are all of us in the wrong, or is it the person who is continually involved in just about every fight this game has seen?
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 14:12:37 GMT -5
I'm not telling anyone to vote for Nate. I never once said you should, I said don't count him out like you were already doing before FTC even started!
I've fought Jenny's cause as well because it seemed people like you already had YOUR mind made up and it's stupid. CC deserves it as well, but you're being hypocritical in saying that I am doing these things when you're turning around and doing the same thing back.
All I did was try to get you to see the other side.
YOU'RE IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE FIGHTS TOO YOU FUCKTARD! In fact, it's basically only me you and Steph. Parv throws her two-sense in every once in a while, Sekou makes his normal laid back rational comments along with others.
I even told you I was fine being voted out. Obviously I don't necessarily care if Nate's part of the reason I'm gone because I'm not holding anything personally against him. If I was butt hurt I would be fighting to get people to not vote for Nate because of what he did.
Your arguments SCREAM bitter Juror, it's pathetic. Being "butt hurt" has nothing to do with me campaigning for Nate. Like I said, if I was then I would not be rooting for Nate in the slightest. The fact you refuse to think of anyone besides CC to vote for is just showing yourr arrogance and stubbornness. You can say you were going to vote Nate all you want, but it's not true.
You can do whatever you want, I frankly don't care. Now this isn't even about the vote, it's about you being a fucking douche and how nothing you say makes sense.
You're talking up a fucking storm when you've only created a dust tornado in this game. I'm not talking myself up like you are, obviously what I've been saying this whole time, YUL IS ON A FUCKING EGO TRIP!
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Post by Sassy Stephannie on May 30, 2011 14:21:06 GMT -5
BOYS ENOUGH! If you are going to debate, bring it to the jury thread. This is Parv's thread for the finalists.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 14:26:19 GMT -5
How about we don't fight here OR in the Jury thread and just let it go completely?
Because I was sick of the drama the day I got voted out, I don't need more after I've been out of the game for 2+ weeks.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 14:33:20 GMT -5
I just don't like being blamed for Nate losing people's votes. I have my own mind, Nate isn't telling me what to say and I should not be a reason that Nate loses votes because it's not a fair way to vote to the player, or the game.
That's all I want to clear because that's why I'm mad.
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 30, 2011 14:35:42 GMT -5
Ok I get it now....
It's okay for you to campaign for Nate to win the game, when he made a good move and backstabbed you by outing your final two alliance.
But, I'm a bitter juror, cause I think CC deserves to win for comparing notes with Jenny, finding out I was playing both sides, and backstabbed me.
I get it now. As long as it benefits Nate it is okay. But, if someone else does the something similiar to me, it isn't. If I was butt hurt about being voted out, do you think I'd vote for CC or Jenny, as their talk, and ultimately CC's betrayal of me, is the reason I left?
Talk about not making sense Penner, you clearly don't....
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 14:38:54 GMT -5
*done talking*
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 30, 2011 14:45:31 GMT -5
Why's that? Because my last post just made you look like a foolish and a hypocrite? Don't go get all...."butt hurt" on me now
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 30, 2011 14:52:18 GMT -5
It's okay for you to campaign for Nate to win the game, when he made a good move and backstabbed you by outing your final two alliance. But, I'm a bitter juror, cause I think CC deserves to win for comparing notes with Jenny, finding out I was playing both sides, and backstabbed me. No because you're being contradictory and I'm done fighting/talking about this. Just stop talking, vote, and let the game end. There's no point.
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