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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 24, 2011 14:18:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't consider Nate challenge whoring it up, doing something, other than proving he has no life :-\ There's another one you said about how winning those immunities doesn't even qualify as worthy. And still, even if you put challenges aside and don't use them as any leverage for your vote, I'd STILL say Nate had one of the better social and strategic games. A good example is when Sekou branched off from Nate after being carried to that point, he flipped. Nate and Jenny then talked the girls into flipping on Sekou when they could have just voted Jenny out and went to final 3 (unless Nate won which he did) together. Nate and Jenny (2 people) became a huge force in this game and played their cards right. I can't say anything about CC because I don't know her game at ALL which is what I'll find out in FTC.
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 24, 2011 15:57:09 GMT -5
Actually, only being in the game with Steph and CC from the merge until I was gone, I had more worthwhile and enjoyable conversations than I ever had with Nate. So, no, for me Nate didn't play a better social game than either of those two, not toward myself anyway.
Jenny is the person who I was probably most sociable with out of the four, but I'd been on a tribe with her longer than Steph and CC.
And I wouldn't call hiding on AIM the round you left, because he was embarrassed he outed your F2 alliance to me and I used it to get you out, a good social game. I call it a bitch move.
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Post by Parvati Shallow on May 24, 2011 19:09:53 GMT -5
There ya go Yul, there's one YOU said! You'd vote for Steph because she did nothing, and people who use prizes (that someone won immunity and sent them to get) and they earned, or winning a bunch of immunities is less deserving. An indirect statement pointed at Jenny and Nate. I'm going to point out the fact that you used the word "one" here. There are going to be like eight of us on the jury. Now, I may not be great at math, but if one-eighth of the jurors don't want to vote for Nate, I'm pretty sure it's not a big deal. ETA: Yul, he hid from me, too. I find that pretty cowardly, given that he'd been lying to me the whole game. If you're gonna epicly abuse somebody's trust, you can't just make it better by not lying to them at the last minute. Also, I'm iffy on the merit of "getting the girls to flip on Sekou". As far as the girls knew, Sekou was in Nate's pocket, so it's not like it would have taken much convincing to get them to agree. (Though it would have been much smarter for them to axe Jenny, and keep pissed-off Sekou, who'd have been much more likely to win the F4 challenge so they could beat Nate).
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 24, 2011 19:58:42 GMT -5
You'll never get him to see any other point other than his own Parv. He's just a giant tumor stuck up Nate's ass...it's pretty pathetic.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 24, 2011 20:17:22 GMT -5
Also, I'm iffy on the merit of "getting the girls to flip on Sekou". As far as the girls knew, Sekou was in Nate's pocket, so it's not like it would have taken much convincing to get them to agree. (Though it would have been much smarter for them to axe Jenny, and keep pissed-off Sekou, who'd have been much more likely to win the F4 challenge so they could beat Nate). Oh I thought Sekou flipped the round prior in order to vote out Jenny but then she used her idol...because Nate knew he was against him at that point. I'm obviously mistaken, I'm not quite sure what happened that round other than Nate was pissed at Sekou or something and Sekou left But yes, I agree, keeping Sekou was smarter, I actually thought Jenny was going so I'm not sure what made them flip. I think Nate said something to Steph but I'm not entirely sure but I remember Nate just showing me some PM he got from her and she was yelling at him.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 24, 2011 20:20:52 GMT -5
Actually, only being in the game with Steph and CC from the merge until I was gone, I had more worthwhile and enjoyable conversations than I ever had with Nate. So, no, for me Nate didn't play a better social game than either of those two, not toward myself anyway. Yeah I'm the opposite... That's why Jenny played a great one because she covered both "sides." But I can only go off of what I saw, but I do know Parv trusted Nate and he told me his plans with her, he talked to you and you trusted him even if it was for a short time because he's the reason I knew about Ozzy leaving instead of myself, and then he obviously talked to Jenny and CC and Steph and he told me his plans with them as well. That's why I'll ask at FTC because I don't know CC's plans while Nate told me all of his. That's why I'm so biased towards it. And I wouldn't call hiding on AIM the round you left, because he was embarrassed he outed your F2 alliance to me and I used it to get you out, a good social game. I call it a bitch move. Yeah I was pretty pissed when you told me that, not gonna lie :-\
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 24, 2011 20:21:39 GMT -5
And Ozzy, just so you know, I think we were actually in a chat together like a week ago or something... With Vernon and Flicka/Gabe
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 28, 2011 11:57:32 GMT -5
So what are you guys thinking of this final 3 (besides all the stuff we've discussed about hating people and people suck or whatever?)
I think it's a good final 3 and I think it's anyone's game.
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 28, 2011 12:14:24 GMT -5
Wow, after reading CC's opening statement it makes me want to vote for her even less...
I don't need to read a synopsis, I need to know why you deserve to be there in the final 3 and that gave me nothing...and it showed some pre-alliances that kind of carried her.
She'll definitely have to wow me with answers because I'm not sure why she's even there. :-\
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 28, 2011 12:16:10 GMT -5
Also, I'm iffy on the merit of "getting the girls to flip on Sekou". As far as the girls knew, Sekou was in Nate's pocket CC kind of explained that how Sekou was turning on Nate so...
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Post by Yul Kwon on May 28, 2011 16:49:52 GMT -5
Wow, after reading CC's opening statement it makes me want to vote for her even less... I don't need to read a synopsis, I need to know why you deserve to be there in the final 3 and that gave me nothing...and it showed some pre-alliances that kind of carried her. She'll definitely have to wow me with answers because I'm not sure why she's even there. :-\ We all know you're voting for Nate anyway so....
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Post by Jonathan Penner on May 28, 2011 19:58:02 GMT -5
Or you could read my statement and NOT be an ass! Kthxbye!
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Post by Sekou Bunch on May 28, 2011 20:43:50 GMT -5
This is a tough vote for me.
Right now I think it is 40 , 35 , 25
CC lost points for me by saying Nate was a huge threat to win the game.
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Post by Adam Gentry on May 28, 2011 21:17:50 GMT -5
For me its 65-30-5 being Nate, jenny, Cristina.
She didn't do anything, and as mean as it is to say it, she wouldn't be able to articulate her reasonings on ANYTHING she did anyways to satisfy me.
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Post by Jeff Probst on May 28, 2011 23:36:14 GMT -5
Steph, please answer the questions
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