Post by Jonathan Penner on May 28, 2011 18:25:34 GMT -5
Hey all!
Congratulations on getting where you are.
As far as I can tell you 3 deserve it, I don't have any reason to think otherwise since you 3 are standing there and us 8 are not.
I don't have much questioning since I was let in on most of the playing throughout the game.
Jenny: I want to know, since you took me out for obviously voting out Ozzy (even though I wasn't the only one and your ally, Nate did the same behind your back) why didn't you come and talk to me more about it? I tried to tell you why I did what I did, and you seemed to receive it, only to find out you didn't really take in what I was saying and turned on me instead.
Also I want to know, kind of talking about what Adam was saying about idols not existing and such, voting me out obviously took away a number from you, and from Nate. What was your plan if the girls didn't flip and vote out Yul and instead created an alliance against you and Nate earlier?
I won't ask you if you regret voting me out because you obviously didn't need me since you're sitting there, but certain circumstances in this game I feel required you to be on the edge of your seat and I can imagine put you in a tight spot. Had you and Nate not been lucky with getting the idols, obviously you wouldn't be sitting there and neither would he.
Did it ever cross your mind what voting me out might have done? Do you think keeping me in the game would have made it a bit easier, less stressful and not so luck-based on your guys' part?
Thanks Jenny.
I can't really say much else because we didn't get to talk at all until the round Ozzy left, and then you voted me out. I'm sure we'll talk in the future though.
CC: Same as Jenny, I can't really say much because we never talked. The only thing I know about you is that you thought I was targeting you, and I felt you were targeting me. Obviously that should tell you one thing since I never said I was targeting you, you listened to what someone else told you instead of coming to me. I came to you and told you I heard to were targeting me, but you never expressed the same concerns. I hate the "he said, she said" games that happen in these ORG's, but it's part of the game.
Anyways, as a person and as a player I don't know anything about you.
I cannot say yes you did, or no you did not play a good social game because we never talked. I can only base my conceptions off of what I saw of you this game and that was not a whole lot.
I have no questions to ask you because I honestly don't know what to ask. I will be reading your answers to other Juror's questions and the only way you're going to get my vote shifted off of either Jenny or Nate is if you completely wow me with your questions and show me that you didn't get here based off of pre-alliances and more than just talking to people within your alliance.
I like out there players, not that that's the only way the game can be played as the game has proven many times over, but I enjoy watching people make moves, win challenges, use prizes, blindside some people...I only saw a few people make moves this game and you were not one of them in my eyes.
Hope I can understand your game play as more than just a UTR player.
Nate: How did I know that you would be sitting here at the end and that I would not?
I came into this game seeing your sn not knowing if I wanted to tell you who I was or not. When I wanted to save Flicka and boot Cece instead I decided the only way I could probably get you to trust me was if I told you who I was, so I did.
Obviously us aligning benefited me in no certain manor and in fact is one of the main reasons I got booted.
I want to know why you would let on to people so much that we knew each other, and on top of that why you feel you could control everything I do when you very well know I'm a pretty independent player.
Granted, when I get into tough binds I need to just lay low and do what I need to do to get out of a bind. But you never once truly helped me besides voting with me and telling me some other people's plans.
First you used some info I gave you and turned it around putting me, your ally in a bad spot leaving me to vote out one of the only people I trusted in this game, Ozzy. I told you many times Ozzy couldn't go right then, but you kept saying how he'd come after you. I assured you many times he would not and if I ever heard him wanting to, THEN we could make a move. On top of that, you sold me out whether it was intentional or not, and I was not very happy about it.
You never listened to me, much like that other All Stars game we played in, and you did things that didn't benefit "your alliance" like you say you intend to. I understand you played the game for yourself, I expect everyone to do the same, but you indirectly cut me loose and am the main reason I am gone.
So I want to know:
Why would you not try to keep a relationship you had prior to this game secret? We started off on the same tribe, you could very well have told anyone you talked to that you and I were pretty tight from the original tribe, I was going to flip or whatever. Instead you outed an alliance and a friendship that would obviously get people worried and turn them on us.
Like Yul said "It was a bitch move." I don't understand the logic in it.
And no you obviously don't have my vote sealed like everyone thinks.
But I would like to shine some light:
Name your 3 biggest moves, why you did them, and the reason you were able to pull them off.
I feel you are very deserving, I just wish you played OUR cards a bit differently. You dragged me in and I got tossed out. Next time I'd hope you'd see that people knowing something like that actually isn't beneficial. I think if Jenny and CC would have told you or others about their secret relationship, then it might have got people turned on them as well.
Good luck you 3.
I really didn't have much to ask, I will look at your answers to other people's questions to aid my vote.
Congratulations on getting where you are.
As far as I can tell you 3 deserve it, I don't have any reason to think otherwise since you 3 are standing there and us 8 are not.
I don't have much questioning since I was let in on most of the playing throughout the game.
Jenny: I want to know, since you took me out for obviously voting out Ozzy (even though I wasn't the only one and your ally, Nate did the same behind your back) why didn't you come and talk to me more about it? I tried to tell you why I did what I did, and you seemed to receive it, only to find out you didn't really take in what I was saying and turned on me instead.
Also I want to know, kind of talking about what Adam was saying about idols not existing and such, voting me out obviously took away a number from you, and from Nate. What was your plan if the girls didn't flip and vote out Yul and instead created an alliance against you and Nate earlier?
I won't ask you if you regret voting me out because you obviously didn't need me since you're sitting there, but certain circumstances in this game I feel required you to be on the edge of your seat and I can imagine put you in a tight spot. Had you and Nate not been lucky with getting the idols, obviously you wouldn't be sitting there and neither would he.
Did it ever cross your mind what voting me out might have done? Do you think keeping me in the game would have made it a bit easier, less stressful and not so luck-based on your guys' part?
Thanks Jenny.
I can't really say much else because we didn't get to talk at all until the round Ozzy left, and then you voted me out. I'm sure we'll talk in the future though.
CC: Same as Jenny, I can't really say much because we never talked. The only thing I know about you is that you thought I was targeting you, and I felt you were targeting me. Obviously that should tell you one thing since I never said I was targeting you, you listened to what someone else told you instead of coming to me. I came to you and told you I heard to were targeting me, but you never expressed the same concerns. I hate the "he said, she said" games that happen in these ORG's, but it's part of the game.
Anyways, as a person and as a player I don't know anything about you.
I cannot say yes you did, or no you did not play a good social game because we never talked. I can only base my conceptions off of what I saw of you this game and that was not a whole lot.
I have no questions to ask you because I honestly don't know what to ask. I will be reading your answers to other Juror's questions and the only way you're going to get my vote shifted off of either Jenny or Nate is if you completely wow me with your questions and show me that you didn't get here based off of pre-alliances and more than just talking to people within your alliance.
I like out there players, not that that's the only way the game can be played as the game has proven many times over, but I enjoy watching people make moves, win challenges, use prizes, blindside some people...I only saw a few people make moves this game and you were not one of them in my eyes.
Hope I can understand your game play as more than just a UTR player.
Nate: How did I know that you would be sitting here at the end and that I would not?
I came into this game seeing your sn not knowing if I wanted to tell you who I was or not. When I wanted to save Flicka and boot Cece instead I decided the only way I could probably get you to trust me was if I told you who I was, so I did.
Obviously us aligning benefited me in no certain manor and in fact is one of the main reasons I got booted.
I want to know why you would let on to people so much that we knew each other, and on top of that why you feel you could control everything I do when you very well know I'm a pretty independent player.
Granted, when I get into tough binds I need to just lay low and do what I need to do to get out of a bind. But you never once truly helped me besides voting with me and telling me some other people's plans.
First you used some info I gave you and turned it around putting me, your ally in a bad spot leaving me to vote out one of the only people I trusted in this game, Ozzy. I told you many times Ozzy couldn't go right then, but you kept saying how he'd come after you. I assured you many times he would not and if I ever heard him wanting to, THEN we could make a move. On top of that, you sold me out whether it was intentional or not, and I was not very happy about it.
You never listened to me, much like that other All Stars game we played in, and you did things that didn't benefit "your alliance" like you say you intend to. I understand you played the game for yourself, I expect everyone to do the same, but you indirectly cut me loose and am the main reason I am gone.
So I want to know:
Why would you not try to keep a relationship you had prior to this game secret? We started off on the same tribe, you could very well have told anyone you talked to that you and I were pretty tight from the original tribe, I was going to flip or whatever. Instead you outed an alliance and a friendship that would obviously get people worried and turn them on us.
Like Yul said "It was a bitch move." I don't understand the logic in it.
And no you obviously don't have my vote sealed like everyone thinks.
But I would like to shine some light:
Name your 3 biggest moves, why you did them, and the reason you were able to pull them off.
I feel you are very deserving, I just wish you played OUR cards a bit differently. You dragged me in and I got tossed out. Next time I'd hope you'd see that people knowing something like that actually isn't beneficial. I think if Jenny and CC would have told you or others about their secret relationship, then it might have got people turned on them as well.
Good luck you 3.
I really didn't have much to ask, I will look at your answers to other people's questions to aid my vote.
Sounds good to me!
